Section Rules - Halo 3 Modding Q&A

Eaton · Post by **Eaton** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 5:38 am

unknownv2 wrote:
Lone_Wolf wrote:Im Curious as to what the current modding limetations you guys are at.
Pretty much nothing for the regular joe. There's only a handful of people who Anthony trusts and are close enough to him to let them make maps (forge maps) and resign them. But, as great as forge modding is, it is extremely limited because you can only swap things that are on the map.

Then there are those other handful of people here who have devkits and can do a lot more and as they progress, we will start seeing better and better things.

Haha, Photoshop...

That is correct. Until the geniuses over on Xbox-scene release some kernel to allow us to run unsigned code on the console so we can mod Halo 3 maps without resigning, our only option is modding Forge. In one year we should start seeing a lot of things like skins, Pelicans and Scarabs on Valhalla

, and just the mos you saw in Halo 2. The thing to do now is wait.

Wow. Pretty good Photoshop because it had me convinced.

Lone_Wolf wrote:Thanks, Just wanted to get that cleared up ^.^
Now my next question.
Is a custom kernal being built?

I think so, but I'm not sure on the development. I don't know if they will even release it when it is done.

unknownv2 · Post by **unknownv2** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 5:43 am

Photoshopping would take some time.

I really love the way Valhalla looks like that. They could make a Christmas video.

Eaton · Post by **Eaton** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 5:44 am

unknownv2 wrote:Photoshopping would take some time.

I really love the way Valhalla looks like that. They could make a Christmas video.

Now if only they could make the water frozen...

sneakyn8 · Post by **sneakyn8** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 7:58 am

why cant we use the king kong exploit to run unsigned code?

Eaton · Post by **Eaton** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 8:01 am

sneakyn8 wrote:why cant we use the king kong exploit to run unsigned code?

What's the King Kong exploit?

sneakyn8 · Post by **sneakyn8** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 8:14 am

Eaton wrote:
sneakyn8 wrote:why cant we use the king kong exploit to run unsigned code?
What's the King Kong exploit?

there is an exploit for the king kong game tht will as far as i know allows the running of unsigned code but i may be missing something here tho

Eaton · Post by **Eaton** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 8:16 am

sneakyn8 wrote:
Eaton wrote:
sneakyn8 wrote:why cant we use the king kong exploit to run unsigned code?
What's the King Kong exploit?
there is an exploit for the king kong game tht will as far as i know allows the running of unsigned code but i may be missing something here tho

Sounds interesting. If it is a permanent exploit, then it may work.

SPARTAN-OMEGA · Post by **SPARTAN-OMEGA** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 8:25 am

It is a pain to get running, and your 360 has to have never signed on XBL, go to xbox-scenes for how to do it...

skyliner99 · Post by **skyliner99** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 10:16 am

Eaton wrote:
sneakyn8 wrote:
Eaton wrote:
sneakyn8 wrote:why cant we use the king kong exploit to run unsigned code?
What's the King Kong exploit?
there is an exploit for the king kong game tht will as far as i know allows the running of unsigned code but i may be missing something here tho
Sounds interesting. If it is a permanent exploit, then it may work.

No one here asking can run unsigned .xex's and wont be able to until a custom kernal is released. Tural said earlier there is no ETA on this kernal. So as of right now no one can run unsigned .xex's unless you are one of the very very few who has a dev kit.

Summery(yes there are 1 or 2 exceptions):
-you cant run unsigned .xex's
-you cant resign .maps
-you cant resign CON LIVE and PIRS files
-you cant mod
Until the custom kernal is realeased no one can mods (except anthony ect.)

-DeToX- · Post by **-DeToX-** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 10:20 am

That still wouldn't work.

The king kong exploit, exploited the hyper visor, but never did allow unsigned code.

I don't even think thats possible with the king kong exploit, if it was, wouldn't we have it already?

sneakyn8 · Post by **sneakyn8** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 1:36 pm

-DeToX- wrote:That still wouldn't work.

The king kong exploit, exploited the hyper visor, but never did allow unsigned code.

I don't even think thats possible with the king kong exploit, if it was, wouldn't we have it already?

ok i thought that it allowed unsigned code too be run successfully so apparently i missed something

M715ForLife · Post by **M715ForLife** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 2:28 pm

My friend thinks he can get a con resigner. My question is : Is there ANY way to make one, or modify somthing for a computer for the x-box?

shade45 · Post by **shade45** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 2:31 pm

Your friend is wrong.

loveandhatejw · Post by **loveandhatejw** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 2:56 pm

Correct me if I am wrong but everyone want to do this online, can joe blow do this offline by having a hacked xbox and burning an iso, either that or moddifing forge files and then from there running them offline. I respect everything you guys do and I hope it keeps on coming!

BTW shade i heard you were saving up for a dev-kit, possible donation? I would like to.

Tural · Post by **Tural** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 3:00 pm

If you have a devkit, you could use alter stuff offline, yes. However, to modify Forge variants, you would still need a container resigner, which is likely to never be released, for the same reasons as have been stated dozens of times.

loveandhatejw · Post by **loveandhatejw** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 3:06 pm

I think you took that wrong. I was wondering if i could moddify the map files and then burn them to an iso and run them offline. With forge files I was wondering if you could modify them then return them to your xbox and run those offline.

unknownv2 · Post by **unknownv2** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 3:12 pm

loveandhatejw wrote:I think you took that wrong. I was wondering if i could moddify the map files and then burn them to an iso and run them offline. With forge files I was wondering if you could modify them then return them to your xbox and run those offline.

No.

No.

loveandhatejw · Post by **loveandhatejw** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 3:17 pm

Thanks for the info, I was under the assumption that you can mod while offline.

unknownv2 · Post by **unknownv2** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 3:32 pm

loveandhatejw wrote:Thanks for the info, I was under the assumption that you can mod while offline.

Being offline doesn't change the fact that they still need to be signed.

loveandhatejw · Post by **loveandhatejw** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 3:33 pm

I was just thinking that it is live that actually signs the maps, but now I guess the signing is done internally.