Section Rules - Halo 3 Modding Q&A

unknownv2 · Post by **unknownv2** » Sat Aug 02, 2008 12:01 pm

uralllame wrote:I was reading the latest Weekly Update on BNet, and I saw this:
Authoring modified content in a File Share

Our definition of modified content is content that is created or uploaded outside of the parameters of what can be done using the game-provided tools. This includes but is not limited to: “hacked” variations of maps and screenshots that are not Halo 3 images (you know what these are).

Also, it’s important to note that once you’ve downloaded a piece of moderated content and renamed it – the system considers you the author of said content. Simply renaming the content is not going to shift the onus of ownership from you to say, Shishka – the system is smarter than that.

Authors of uploaded modified content received the following prizes:

* The account is permanently banned from Matchmaking
* Permanent loss of File Share functionality.
* The Xbox hardware has been banned from Halo 3 for a month.
What if you met somebody on Xbox Live, who noticed that you were from a different ethnic background to them, and they took offence to that. (You know it happens a lot). What if they then modded up some content, then searched the file and replaced every instance of their gamertag, with yours, and then uploaded it to a second account's file share? Who would the "system" identify as the author, and then get the mother of all bans?

They already said editing the author/CON file to display false information won't stop the actual author from getting what they deserve.

Themandyou · Post by **Themandyou** » Sat Aug 02, 2008 12:38 pm

I thought at one point they also said if you download and reupload it, then it has your name, and you become one of the authors. Am I missing something, or did they clearly contradict themselves?

unknownv2 · Post by **unknownv2** » Sat Aug 02, 2008 12:42 pm

Themandyou wrote:I thought at one point they also said if you download and reupload it, then it has your name, and you become one of the authors. Am I missing something, or did they clearly contradict themselves?

No, they didn't. They said if you download it and rename it/edit it, it will treat you as the original author.

If you download it and upload it, and you are not the creator, you will get an upload ban.

mxrider108 · Post by **mxrider108** » Mon Aug 04, 2008 7:58 pm

Oops. I thought I had read every post in this thread (no orange icon) before posting my new thread, but apparently I missed this discussion.

Anyway, I am not aware of any other way besides your IDs and the author's gamertag for Bungie to identify you. Further, I read the part in the update about still finding the original author to mean 'when you download and rename a modded file, we can catch you and ALSO the original author (because it will become a 176kb file with both gamertags within it).'

If this is not the case, how should we continue the Downloads section without the risk of being banned because someone decides to post your map on their File Share without your permission?

Mission_Blade · Post by **Mission_Blade** » Thu Aug 07, 2008 2:42 pm

Tural wrote:It's illegal to use copyrighted assets without permission.

Actually if you are using them for an academic purpose then it's legit.

Tural · Post by **Tural** » Thu Aug 07, 2008 2:48 pm

Why did you reply to a three month old post? And no, it is not legal to reverse engineer copyrighted assets and use them, for any purpose. The method of acquisition is taken into account in what is considered legal and what isn't. Please note context and don't reply to excessively old posts.

Mission_Blade · Post by **Mission_Blade** » Thu Aug 07, 2008 3:26 pm

Tural wrote:Why did you reply to a three month old post? And no, it is not legal to reverse engineer copyrighted assets and use them, for any purpose. The method of acquisition is taken into account in what is considered legal and what isn't. Please note context and don't reply to excessively old posts.

Sorry didn't realize how old it was... I haven't slept in weeks..

Anyways... Good luck with this modding thingy... I'll be back later when we have softmods compiled for the X360. Unless I pick up a XeDK in the near future in which case I will try to contribute to the best of my ability if allowed in the the "Memebers Only" club.

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SPARTAN-OMEGA · Post by **SPARTAN-OMEGA** » Thu Aug 07, 2008 8:47 pm

Not funny, and xbox scene is where you should watch for CFW not here...

Also dont mess with tural, he's one of the few reasons HM is as good a site as it is, so dont argue with him, thank him he was nice enough to not make you part of the RC for breaking post rules

kibito87 · Post by **kibito87** » Thu Aug 07, 2008 11:28 pm

SPARTAN-OMEGA wrote:Not funny, and xbox scene is where you should watch for CFW not here...

Also dont mess with tural, he's one of the few reasons HM is as good a site as it is, so dont argue with him, thank him he was nice enough to not make you part of the RC for breaking post rules

1. He said softmod.

2. lol brown nosing much. /offtopic

SPARTAN-OMEGA · Post by **SPARTAN-OMEGA** » Fri Aug 08, 2008 9:25 am

CFW is a softmod, the softmod needed to mod halo 3

yes I did brown nose, Im sick of people around here arguing with staff and being foolish enough to disrespect them when they are the reason this forums has order.

kibito87 · Post by **kibito87** » Fri Aug 08, 2008 9:55 am

SPARTAN-OMEGA wrote:CFW is a softmod, the softmod needed to mod halo 3

yes I did brown nose, Im sick of people around here arguing with staff and being foolish enough to disrespect them when they are the reason this forums has order.

I won't argue with you about the softmod discussion because it's a thin line. And I'm sorry for the remark, it was late and I only meant it as a joke. I was tired

I'll just end this discussion right now so the forum can get back to it's original idea.

SPARTAN-OMEGA · Post by **SPARTAN-OMEGA** » Fri Aug 08, 2008 11:31 am

No, it's fine, I should have realised, I take blame, and I cant argue that we should get back on topic

CompKronos · Post by **CompKronos** » Sun Aug 24, 2008 12:59 pm

well i didn't think it would be worthwhile to make a new thread, but i ahve a question to ask that seemed slightly plausible.

What i was thinking was that in a main .map file there will be a section of the file that contains the little preview displayed in the main lobby. My question is then in the usermap does it reference the main .map file and then displays the picture from the .map file as an independent reference, that is free from say a bsp reference.

i know its in a roundabout manner but i was curios to see if it would be possible to switch the preview picture, for ****s and

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Tural · Post by **Tural** » Sun Aug 24, 2008 1:09 pm

Preview images are independent files on the disc, they are not contained in a map file.

CompKronos · Post by **CompKronos** » Thu Aug 28, 2008 3:04 pm

where in the con file does it show the size of the file, i have turning various usermaps up and down and can't find it.

unknownv2 · Post by **unknownv2** » Thu Aug 28, 2008 4:20 pm

CompKronos wrote:well i didn't think it would be worthwhile to make a new thread, but i ahve a question to ask that seemed slightly plausible.

What i was thinking was that in a main .map file there will be a section of the file that contains the little preview displayed in the main lobby. My question is then in the usermap does it reference the main .map file and then displays the picture from the .map file as an independent reference, that is free from say a bsp reference.

i know its in a roundabout manner but i was curios to see if it would be possible to switch the preview picture, for ****s and 's

You can change what map the usermap is listed under, but editing which map it's based on just loads the whole map with no usermap. It's not possible to switch them unless you switch the usermap base map.

M715ForLife · Post by **M715ForLife** » Sat Aug 30, 2008 2:02 pm

What is the King Kong exploit?

Tural · Post by **Tural** » Sat Aug 30, 2008 2:13 pm

A topic to discuss on Xbox-Scene, as it is not Halo modding.

skyliner99 · Post by **skyliner99** » Sun Aug 31, 2008 2:09 pm

M715ForLife wrote:What is the King Kong exploit?

will answer; ( i was in the same boat as you a while ago)

it is basically an exploit of the king kong game allowing users to boot a basic version of linux on the xbox 360

correct me if im wrong but it involved editing the unencrypted shaders to cause the system to crash and allowing a linux bootloader to execute

xbox · Post by **xbox** » Sun Aug 31, 2008 4:16 pm

Tural wrote:A topic to discuss on Xbox-Scene, as it is not Halo modding.

google answers