Section Rules - Halo 3 Modding Q&A

Tural · Post by **Tural** » Tue Apr 01, 2008 3:43 pm

Tural: What is required to convert retail to dev?
Anthony: its impossible
Tural: Oh

haxalot88 · Post by **haxalot88** » Tue Apr 01, 2008 3:44 pm

loveandhatejw wrote:Wouldn't a hybrid just be like an xbox with a modchip on roids then. Whats the difference of having a full devkit compared to a hybrid.

A hybrid is a term that someone gave to a retail 360 that was upgraded to dev.

Eaton · Post by **Eaton** » Tue Apr 01, 2008 3:45 pm

loveandhatejw wrote:Wouldn't a hybrid just be like an xbox with a modchip on roids then. Whats the difference of having a full devkit compared to a hybrid.

From what I know, a hybrid 360 and a devkit 360 are the same thing, but a hybrid 360 is self upgraded while a devkit is a real, legitimate Microsoft product. There aren't really any chips for an Xbox 360 yet. If there are any, they are for DVD drive flashes or something.

LuxuriousMeat · Post by **LuxuriousMeat** » Tue Apr 01, 2008 3:48 pm

loveandhatejw wrote:Wouldn't a hybrid just be like an xbox with a modchip on roids then. Whats the difference of having a full devkit compared to a hybrid.

There's no difference, they are one in the same.

Eaton · Post by **Eaton** » Tue Apr 01, 2008 3:51 pm

And most of us will probably never acquire one of these, unfortunately.

loveandhatejw · Post by **loveandhatejw** » Tue Apr 01, 2008 3:53 pm

You wouldn't want anyone who doesn't know what they're doing to have one anyways, there would be no point.

Eaton · Post by **Eaton** » Tue Apr 01, 2008 3:55 pm

loveandhatejw wrote:You wouldn't want anyone who doesn't know what they're doing to have one anyways, there would be no point.

True. If I had one, I would probably have no use for it because I probably wouldn't know how to do anything anyway.

Tural · Post by **Tural** » Tue Apr 01, 2008 3:57 pm

And you wouldn't have the modified XEX, so you wouldn't be physically able to mod, even if you knew how.

loveandhatejw · Post by **loveandhatejw** » Tue Apr 01, 2008 3:58 pm

And unfortunately the site *caugh* is down.

Eaton · Post by **Eaton** » Tue Apr 01, 2008 4:05 pm

Tural wrote:And you wouldn't have the modified XEX, so you wouldn't be physically able to mod, even if you knew how.

That is true as well. That is probably stopping a lot of people with devkits from modding. I guess the best thing to do is wait until we can do it on a retail console...

loveandhatejw · Post by **loveandhatejw** » Tue Apr 01, 2008 4:15 pm

That is true as well. That is probably stopping a lot of people with devkits from modding. I guess the best thing to do is wait until we can do it on a retail console...

everything you said there was completely false except the first sentence.

Veegie · Post by **Veegie** » Tue Apr 01, 2008 6:59 pm

Guess what?
This topic isn't about Xbox hardware.

ScottyGEE · Post by **ScottyGEE** » Wed Apr 02, 2008 2:36 pm

Is modding capable of removing the compression with screenshots? If that's worded badly, is there the possibility in future of having high quality, possibly raw screenshots?

Anthony · Post by **Anthony** » Wed Apr 02, 2008 2:41 pm

Well I have a tool I made to dump the current frame buffer, it really doesn't seem too much sharper then it is now.

Veegie · Post by **Veegie** » Wed Apr 02, 2008 2:44 pm

Anthony wrote:Well I have a tool I made to dump the current frame buffer, it really doesn't seem too much sharper then it is now.

And that's also considering the screenshot tool renders it at 3840x2160 then resizes it, to save on calculating AA.

turk645 · Post by **turk645** » Wed Apr 02, 2008 7:11 pm

2 things

1. This is more of a request then anything but would a modder be willing to get a video of forge while picking up a ragdoll, i really want to see it.

2. At the current state is it possable to get a FFA forge mode?

Supermodder911 · Post by **Supermodder911** » Wed Apr 02, 2008 7:13 pm

turk645 wrote:2 things

1. This is more of a request then anything but would a modder be willing to get a video of forge while picking up a ragdoll, i really want to see it.

2. At the current state is it possable to get a FFA forge mode?

Can't answer number 1.

But You could probably do it with the saved films not actually in game, right Veegie?

Veegie · Post by **Veegie** » Thu Apr 03, 2008 10:59 am

turk645 wrote:2 things

1. This is more of a request then anything but would a modder be willing to get a video of forge while picking up a ragdoll, i really want to see it.

2. At the current state is it possable to get a FFA forge mode?

1 would be possible if anyone stopped being lazy.
2 would be possibly easily with saved films, but not in real time, as that subject hasn't been researched.

loveandhatejw · Post by **loveandhatejw** » Thu Apr 03, 2008 11:14 am

1 would be possible if anyone stopped being lazy.

Dont really feel like it.

Is gametype editing and forge editing follow the same methods.

Tural · Post by **Tural** » Thu Apr 03, 2008 11:22 am

loveandhatejw wrote:Dont really feel like it.

Is gametype editing and forge editing follow the same methods.

Did you just express the opinion of a group you are not in, as though you were..?

Gametype and Forge editing are not the same. They are both in container files which are resigned the same way, but the editing process is different, as they store entirely different information.