Lately...

-DeToX- · Post by **-DeToX-** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 8:13 am

Lately as I look through halomods I see much change, one for the negative being ripped or stolen content, with no permission, and just credit, or no credit at all.

Credit itself isn't a problem to me that much, but its disrespectful when you spend your time on something hard for someone, and they don't even acknowledge you, and everyone beleive's they made it.

http://forums.halomods.com/viewtopic.ph ... 694#631694
Here is a link to a post mappack, EMP, which has taken MANY bitmaps from Zone117's Mainmenu from his mappack, without proper permission. I for one helped zone ALOT with this mappack, and I don't appreciate things being taken.

Halomods has always been an amazing community and I thank the staff for it, but lately its been falling because of things like this. People are being ignorant to rules. I don't know what much can be done here, but I ask of you staff, could this somehow be brought to a more justice?

Many things have been stolen lately, bitmaps, Models(mostly from dec), Skins from xHeadshotmastax, maps from TBZ that people want to renovate.

Halomods has always been an amazing community and still is, But I believe this is one big downfall.

Could it be more prevented some how?

xlRainlx · Post by **xlRainlx** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 8:16 am

I dont know but I myself hate rippers. Doom worked so hard on his model and I did my best to perfect it ingame only to have some noobs extract it from my mod without permission.(Blue got permission BTW)

xXxCocoFangxXx · Post by **xXxCocoFangxXx** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 8:52 am

We need MORE staff!

Not just Moderators, I think we need J.A's back, we need more Admins also!

I vote for Tural, even if he doesn't like me, I still know he does a good job, and is on often.

ACTIVE STAFF!!!

Tural · Post by **Tural** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 9:13 am

We need the report system. That's what we need.

Anyways, that map pack was removed once before. I'm now permanently RC'ing that guy.

-DeToX- · Post by **-DeToX-** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 9:18 am

Tural wrote:We need the report system. That's what we need.

Anyways, that map pack was removed once before. I'm now permanently RC'ing that guy.

Thank you. I hope the report system returns sometime soon. I kind of doubt it but you never know.

Temporarily could the Report button link to the topic "Enforcing Rules"?
Or directly to the posting page for that topic?
Or is that out of the question?

Tural · Post by **Tural** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 9:20 am

The two people with the ability to change that aren't available often. I know how to fix profile editing as well, but Grenadiac hasn't responded to me in IRC.

Also, Iron_Forge directly told me he had no plans to finish the report system.

xXxCocoFangxXx · Post by **xXxCocoFangxXx** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 9:21 am

Well the report button would help! =]]

But I still think we need ONE VERY active Admin, is it really that hard to ask for?

-DeToX- · Post by **-DeToX-** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 11:28 am

GTAF for admin. <_<. He's posted alot on halomods, and is very serious and trustworthy. Though I don't make the decisions so I would disregard this.

And that sucks Tural, that I_F has no plans to fix it

Prey · Post by **Prey** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 12:22 pm

Education is what's needed, newcomers don't understand the complexities of their actions; they just stumble in and then scream at you when you tell them they've failed quite miserably.. it is quite sad really. But the fact that the admin of the site are hard to get in touch with is just plain pathetic... especially with such a thriving community going here, you would think they'd keep the site in check. Not to mention that everything revolves around the power they hold; fixing the report feature, fixing the edit-profile feature, making forums, changing forums, installing new php mods etc. Its insane that they are just.not.there.

I definitely agree that active, trusted moderators should become admin, although saying that, i know it'll never happen in my lifetime. It is like passing a new law, or waiting for the court hearing of a recently jailed criminal.. it takes forever.

Sgt.Peppers · Post by **Sgt.Peppers** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 12:24 pm

Well if we're having a little nominating going on here, I nominate GTAF and Tural for J.A's. I think we could sure use them.

xXxCocoFangxXx · Post by **xXxCocoFangxXx** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 12:27 pm

Sgt.Peppers wrote:Well if we're having a little nominating going on here, I nominate GTAF and Tural for J.A's. I think we could sure use them.

I agree, we need them badly!!! They need to be able to do more than they can do now, lots more. They need to STAY active also, because we have been let down before by Admins saying they were gonna be active, it better not happen again.

JK-47 · Post by **JK-47** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 12:35 pm

Agreed. I've been seeing a lot more ripping/no credit going on a lot more frequently around here. Although I haven't released anything to be ripped; it's unfair for the people who worked hard on something only to have some lazy ass who doesn't learn how to do it for them self and rip it out of a mod someone put their time into.

I also agree how sad it is to get something done around here. We definitely do need a couple more J.A's or an active Admin. And I also agree that either Tural or GTAF would do a great job at it; because of the fact that they are always active, and they know how to get something done.

D4rkFire · Post by **D4rkFire** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 1:09 pm

JK-47 wrote: I also agree how sad it is to get something done around here. We definitely do need a couple more J.A's or an active Admin. And I also agree that either Tural or GTAF would do a great job at it; because of the fact that they are always active, and they know how to get something done.

QFT

MaestroMan · Post by **MaestroMan** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 2:09 pm

JK-47 FOR ADMIN

Cryticfarm · Post by **Cryticfarm** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 4:32 pm

MaestroMan wrote:JK-47 FOR ADMIN

QFT!!!! Maybe we can have an election as soon as an admin comes back.

Tural · Post by **Tural** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 4:37 pm

This thread is not about new staff. Promoting anyone to admin would not solve the problems the first post described.

theycallmechad · Post by **theycallmechad** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 5:14 pm

I have never felt a bigger slap in the face (as far as modding is concerned) as when my stuff gets ripped. I try to keep a sharp eye out for stolen bitmaps, but I have been slacking of late. People deserve to have not only the credit they deserve, but to have control over who has and uses their work. Modding (particularly skinning) can be an art, and only pathetic, low-life loosers with no self-esteem steal peoples' work.

Let's all keep a better look out for this kind of stuff, and report it as soon as you find it!

OwnZ joO · Post by **OwnZ joO** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 8:39 pm

theycallmechad wrote:I have never felt a bigger slap in the face (as far as modding is concerned) as when my stuff gets ripped. I try to keep a sharp eye out for stolen bitmaps, but I have been slacking of late. People deserve to have not only the credit they deserve, but to have control over who has and uses their work. Modding (particularly skinning) can be an art, and only pathetic, low-life loosers with no self-esteem steal peoples' work.

Let's all keep a better look out for this kind of stuff, and report it as soon as you find it!

I realise where you're coming from, but you do seem a little hypocritical on a a modding site. Did you ever ask Bungie if you could use there work? Do you credit them every mod you release? I fully understand and agree with you on the ripping and what not, but none of us have asked permission to use their work...

Tural · Post by **Tural** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 8:52 pm

The situation is entirely different. The developer-modder relationship is nothing like the modder-modder relationship.

SHOUTrvb · Post by **SHOUTrvb** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 9:12 pm

Plus we don't claim content in any of our mods unless the content is completely 100% ours. Consider halomods to be the unofficial Downloadable Content for the Halo trilogy. Also, getting the report mod back and full-functional would be great. There wouldn't be a need for more than maybe 4 staff (3 mods and 1 admin) to keep everything under control. Thankfully we have GTAF, Tural, and I'm still debating who claims the 3rd spot record.