Just my two cents

[CabooseJr]

Or provoke them to try harder and make sure its not a piece of shit.

[Locke]

We don't have an administrator that regularly visits the forum, either. That also says something. Yet you're blaming us.

Here comes the excuse train. Toot toot!
I'm on every day. I read most topics to stay up to date. I post rarely though as I only post when I have something worth while. If you really need an admin, PM me...If I'm not at work or school I should respond promptly.

You talked with an administrator, our "boss", who said he was dissatisfied with the staff. Ifail to see how you can be angry at us when our boss is the one responsible for controlling our actions.

I am responsible for your actions to some degree, but how can I order a volunteer staff to do something? I tell the staff not to swear (or do anything against the filters) in order to set an example for the members and I got alot of flak for it. Did you listen. No.

Going around **** footing isn't going to help.

Just *** say their name already people.

Perhaps I should just delete the hall of fame, post like a total **** instead of being nice

This is just from one topic...

I am the Anonymous poster. I believe that this community has gone to absolute hell since it

seems like Snaf and his little groupie's have ganged up on every person that has set a new foot into modding.

I believe that the moderaters have not done a damn thing to stop this, and I don't care what your excuse is.

If ever you feel moderators are not doing enough to handle something, just contact me.

This is kind of relevant. Some of the people or staff act better than others, just because they are more respected; that's not right. When I login, that's the way it feels to me. I just see people acting liek they are better than others. I haven't been around for very long, but it just seems that way, more and more since I came here.

Indeed

[CabooseJr]

Well, usually when I do stuff, and people think its crap, I do everything to make it not like crap.
but that's just me.

[bibbit]

All the stuff he just wrote

I have never seen more win in my life. I totally agree. Excluding some staff (Scotty and others), I think the staff need to jump back into the community and stop just watching the forums from the heavens and only acting when a topic needs locked, etc.

[metkillerjoe]

I completely agree Locke. But I think there are two parts to this equation, one is, of course, as stated negligence of staff to actually help situation and not just going to the easy way out (locking threads), and the other part is of course that the members (some of them like Snaf and Leuk) have been helping but rather trying to exclude people from the community or making them feel uncomfortable.

I honestly wish that either Snaf and Leuk would be here to testify on their part.

[-DeToX-]

I agree with Locke. I also remember the staff that only moderated certain sections. Half of those people have no power now or aren't active.

Also, bibbit, the Staff Position is not a democracy, it has been said before, and I guess I should say it again. Your signature states to nominate Trulife to staff, If someone is truly helpful and should be staff, they would be recognized by doing what they do, not by being nominated.

We have many moderators doing they're job and doing it thoroughly behind the scenes. Many reports being done, problems being tended to.

So there will always be at least someone thinking they are better than others, and that may be a hard thing to change. But there will also always be people to help out when help is needed, and even if the mean person says your mod doesn't look good, they should be allowed to post their opinions.

Point is you will always have those people that feel they have power over others, and you should just ignore those people, they shouldn't drive you up a wall to the point where you want to kill them. And there will always be someone helping out, and those people are the people that get recognized positively most of the time. So it all works out in the end in my opinion.

I hope this makes some sense to the reader.

bibbit do you have a valid reason to think that Trulife should be staff on this site? I'm pretty sure we have enough active staff on this site to take care of any problems needed. Maybe admins sometimes aren't on often(though Locke is, and Forge is on AIM every day(and thats still working fine)), but thats admins, I'm pretty sure the staff is holding up fine right now.

[bibbit]

Also, bibbit, the Staff Position is not a democracy, it has been said before, and I guess I should say it again. Your signature states to nominate Trulife to staff, If someone is truly helpful and should be staff, they would be recognized by doing what they do, not by being nominated.

Yeah, I was there for the whole non-democracy discussion; how staff don't get elected. The sig sort of half started as a joke, until Tru told me that's how shadowkhas got to be staff, so I put it in there. He just seems to be an all-around respectable guy to me. But I also do realize that we don't really need any more staff, so do what you will.

[-DeToX-]

I have reasons to believe otherwise.

[Tural]

Tru told me that's how shadowkhas got to be staff

That's really not an issue here. shadowkhas did not become staff because of the signatures, he became staff with the signatures.

[RaVNzCRoFT]

I agree, this website was at its zenith when staff members only moderated a few different forum sections.

[Tural]

They really don't have a field of expertise and all they do is go around spending pointless hours locking topics instead of letting natural selection work. They don't help people because "Oh, I don't have the time because I have to go lock something". Honestly, locking a topic is one of the last things you want to do. If you can avoid locking it, do so. Staff members used to be members of the community themselves. They would post like any other joe, but were like super heroes. They acted like a normal member, but if something came up, they would dawn their moderator costume and go fight flame wars. When they were done, they would just act as if nothing had happened...They functioned like two separate people. What I'm getting at is that staff members need to get off their high horse and join the rest of the world. Their primary function should be helping people. They should not pass up an opportunity to help someone just to lock a topic. That can wait.

First of all, those of us who don't participate as actively as we did in the past (I know I'm one for sure, I used to be one of the most helpful people concerning Halo 2 modding) didn't stop because we became staff, and moderating didn't take its place. I know that I, for one, gradually stopped because I was losing interest, everything was becoming the same. My activity would not have risen had I not been promoted to staff, if anything, I'd be far less active on the site. I still participate in areas which interest me, and I still help out when I know the answer (Although I haven't kept up with recent modding developments, so that's not really my field of expertise). Staff like Detox, Scotty and iGeo clearly do know about such modding, and they help out when they can. To say that staff members choose to not help because they need to lock a topic is ridiculous. That scenario probably isn't the best example for your point.

tl;dr version: Being staff boosts activity in areas of interest, it doesn't diminish it.

[kibito87]

Normally I would steer clear from a thread like this but I thought I'd be a prime example. Now, before you think i'm going about boasting how great I am as a member, that's exactly the opposite of what i'm trying to accomplish.

Anyways, if anyone has every noticed. I am always trying to help out a fellow community member in any way i can. if I don't have a solution I try to find the next best thing for the member including and not limited to, asking somebody that might know more on the situation than me. This doesn't even include the instances where flaming may erupt or the thread might be steering off in the wrong direction. Most of the time, I PM a moderator and it gets dealt with from there. Sometimes, even though i'm not staff...I will personally try to intervene and makes things right just to keep things in order and not let them get out of control. As i've pointed out already though, i'm not staff, Nor do I have to be to make a difference.

So I figured I would throw that out there on behalf of the few that are still around today that are genuine members.

P.S. Notice, i've been here longer than some of the staff and I still act the same as I did back when I joined. Being staff makes no excuse for personal change. If it does change you, you don't deserve to be staff IMO.

[Iron_Forge]

First off...I'm a jerk...Always have been a jerk...If you're above the age of 13, feel free to read jerk as any other word, which means the same, but more so...Not much is going to change that...If my superiority complex bothers you, I'm sorry, but that's your issue...I've earned it...

That being said...This is probably one of the best threads I've been following in a long time...None of the modding stuff really interests me at all, but the site does, and the community does...And this thread is about the site and it's community...There's so many points I want to touch on, I'm hoping I don't miss anything...Like most of my posts, this one will probably be too long for many of you to read...That's fine...It's not meant for you...I apologize now if it seems to jump around as I read through the previous pages and make comments as I see fit...

The community will never be "how you remember it"...It's always changing, reforming from it's state when you joined...And since you stuck around, you probably really enjoyed how it was when you got here...Ask anyone, and the site was probably best when they arrived, and everyone who came after them ruined it...This is true if you've been here 3 weeks, 3 months, or 3 years...In reality, the site hasn't gotten better or worse, just changed from the point you joined, and loved so much...And it's definitely not dieing, just losing long time members who's interest is no longer held...You can't blame them for it, and it's no ones fault...

I'm pretty sure the site has 3 or 4 admins these days...Not sure which anyone has referenced since no names were given...It sure wasn't me, and I'd venture a guess it wasn't Gren...I can't really speak for the others...But please keep in mind, I've actually been "staff" a very short period of time, relatively speaking...I still speak as I would have before or after I became staff, it does not rule who I am, merely what I can do...And for the most part, the Administrators aren't anyone

[CabooseJr]

Iron_Forge just basically summed up everything that has been going on.

Now, Since we got over 80k members on the forum, Usually new users don't read the rules right away, which creates a problem.

[-Legendary-]

Great post. Everything in it, is what needed to be said.

[Tural]

Usually new users don't read the rules right away, which creates a problem.

Which gets dealt with fairly quickly.

[CabooseJr]

That is true.

[StalkingGrunt911]

I would have left HaloMods back in April of this year yet I stay because of the community because there are a lot of nice people here. I personally think some of the people that are staff don't actually do anything yet they bear the staff name. I also don't recall them ever posting in the thread that was for reports at the time, and if they actually did it would be maybe one thing. I have only been here for maybe 2 years at the most I didn't actually join until whenever this account was made. I did join the Users forum sometime in July of 2005 but ever since the merge I haven't seen them actually do anything useful for this forum. I won't name them but I'm sure others might think of the same people as well.

[Tural]

I also don't recall them ever posting in the thread that was for reports at the time, and if they actually did it would be maybe one thing.

Why would staff post in the reports thread..?

[StalkingGrunt911]

I also don't recall them ever posting in the thread that was for reports at the time, and if they actually did it would be maybe one thing.

Why would staff post in the reports thread..?

The thread that was for reports while the report system was down. When they would do something like
-SG showing they edited it.