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It has to be possible. With a quick hex editor check, it appears that the H2V tags are compressed (another clue is that the maps are much smaller).

Let's start a project that aims at converting Halo 2 Vista tags into Halo 2 Xbox tags (tags that H2Guerilla can open). This would allow for custom BSPs on the xbox!

I'm not very good at this converting stuff, but I am a good C# programmer.

Anyone wanna help?

im pretty sure that the tags are not compressed

the smaller map size is due to most of the tags being external rather then internal

Hmm...some of the tags themselves are smaller. Different formats maybe?

I'll examine the tags a little closer.

they properly just removed a load of the unused crap from them

The tag class names are reversed! Bipd becomes dpib.

Also, .model files = HLMT tags (TMLH in H2V). .render_model files must be the actual model and .collision_model is for collision.

O_o

Ok, ok... first of all, the halo 2 vista map files are still little endian encoded, so you have to reverse the group names. ( use Array.Reverse(array); ). dpib will be bipd and tmlh will be hlmt.

And no, .model files are not hlmt. Hlmt tags are Object Property tags. They hold visual information (Animations, model, collision, etc) and other crap I don't know about because it's all unknown.

I'd give you a list of what group is what, but that's about 70 things... and I don't think anyone would be happy.

Yes, the .model files are indeed the HLMT tags. Just hex edit it for yourself. I'm pretty sure the model you're thinking about is .render_model.

DarkMetal wrote:O_o


And no, .model files are not hlmt. Hlmt tags are Object Property tags. They hold visual information (Animations, model, collision, etc) and other crap I don't know about because it's all unknown.

@ plasma Ghost - He wasn't speaking of any model tag. He was telling you that the model tag isn't the HLMT tag.. The HLMT tag is a a object properties tag.. Holds the properties of an object. In example.. it hold the collision model, physics model, Animations.. ETC. For a tag.


Yeah I did take Dark's post and rewrote it.. in a way..

<3 T1

Its common sense. Object properties include visual appearance(model), feel(collision and phmo) along with health, and many other things. Anyways BSP isn't too hard, you should see it pretty soon hopefully.

I'm talking about the extensions. Look at MC's tags. There are four related to models. There is a .model tag, a .render_model tag, a .physics_model tag, and a .collison_model tag. Open the .model tag with a hex editor and you'll see that it says TMLH.

I know what a HLMT tag is btw.

DarkMetal wrote:O_o

Ok, ok... first of all, the halo 2 vista map files are still little endian encoded, so you have to reverse the group names. ( use Array.Reverse(array); ). dpib will be bipd and tmlh will be hlmt.

And no, .model files are not hlmt. Hlmt tags are Object Property tags. They hold visual information (Animations, model, collision, etc) and other crap I don't know about because it's all unknown.

I'd give you a list of what group is what, but that's about 70 things... and I don't think anyone would be happy.

DarkMetal already stated this. =/

I noticed they were backwards... in the hex I noticed that even head and foot were backwards... or has it always been like that?....

Wow...Seriously? Did no one read the part about little endian? Array.Reverse, I mean srsly. =_=

G.I.R. wrote:Wow...Seriously? Did no one read the part about little endian? Array.Reverse, I mean srsly. =_=

I dont think we should even bother talking about endian... its new for h3 thats the only time we should talk about it

for halo 2 its just going to confuse people so I think you should just say yes... its always been like that....

I mean srsly. =_=

Just because you giuys made up a name for a group tag does not mean your right. Because you were just proved wrong.