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Modding Halo 2 PC
Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 8:31 am
by ApocalypseTyrant
The most obvious reason for people getting Halo 2 PC is for those who don't like split screen in multiplayer and/or Xbox Live. In any case, this will more than likely spawn a whole chain of multiplayer (and yes single player) modding mayhem. So, if you had programs like HMT and SparkEdit for editing Halo 2 maps (whether it be Single Player or Multiplayer), what kinds of things would you do?
Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 12:44 pm
by Snave
You cant compare the halo2 SDK to Sparkedit or HMT (no offence to the creators of course) they are two completely different things.
Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 1:02 pm
by ApocalypseTyrant
I know that DotHalo can be used with both. But when are they going to include the "Rebuild Map" feature? This program has been out for a while and if they'd just get that part of it straight then we'd have a Halo 2 version of HMT:D
Re: Modding Halo 2 PC
Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 5:43 pm
by sil3ntdarkn355
ApocalypseTyrant wrote:The most obvious reason for people getting Halo 2 PC is for those who don't like split screen in multiplayer and/or Xbox Live.
or for those who dont even have an xbox....
well, i would add super luster to every model in multiplayer maps because in SP, it's just too much!
Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 10:16 pm
by Malf
You can't assume anything about modding H2PC. Since it's being developed for Vista, it could have all types of security that stops us from editing anything.
*Waits for stupid comment from some nub about how OMG W3 WILL PWN TEH 'M$' SECURITYZZZ*
Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 1:39 pm
by ApocalypseTyrant
Beta's for the new operating system are being released, so since I actually am a full time computer technician, I'm going to see if I can get some of the good stuff
Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 3:18 pm
by BEEF!!!
Malf wrote:You can't assume anything about modding H2PC. Since it's being developed for Vista, it could have all types of security that stops us from editing anything.
*Waits for stupid comment from some nub about how OMG W3 WILL PWN TEH 'M$' SECURITYZZZ*
Exactly what I said
http://www.halomods.com/forums/viewtopi ... ht=#306998
If and when we mod H2PC I don't think it will be too different than what we have now for a little bit.
Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 3:31 pm
by sil3ntdarkn355
OMG W3 WILL PWN TEH 'M$' SECURITYZZZ
S3RIOUSLY11!111!! OMG WTF LOL
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yea i used the AOL translator for the last statement, someone out there will one day do it, i mean "pwn" microsofts security probably
Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 3:54 pm
by ApocalypseTyrant
modding H2PC will just be more convenient than the Xbox version since you don't have to worry about transfering it all over to another machine. Those maps can get pretty hefty in size.
Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 4:03 pm
by Malf
ApocalypseTyrant wrote:modding H2PC will just be more convenient than the Xbox version since you don't have to worry about transfering it all over to another machine. Those maps can get pretty hefty in size.
Well, considering most people have their xbox on a 100mbit/s network (unless their router sucks), transferring large files isn't really much of an issue
Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 4:11 pm
by Snave
I transfer at 7-9mb/s..
Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 5:05 pm
by ApocalypseTyrant
And I'm on wireless, and as I'm sure you know, the further you are from the source, the weaker the signal. But it is more convenient. Anyway, H2PC would eliminate this factor all together.
Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 8:34 pm
by younghaloce
The main reason I'm getting H2PC is becuase it's eaisier to mod, and because it has a map editor.
I'd probably mod it using some H2PC version of Sparkedit, and with Hex Editor. Using them to move stuff around, duplicate stuff, and change weapon projectiles (I know they are very simple mods, but I'll also dl many other mods).
Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 10:08 pm
by Malf
younghaloce wrote:The main reason I'm getting H2PC is becuase it's eaisier to mod, and because it has a map editor.
Err, how can you say that? We have NO IDEA how easy/hard/similar it will be to mod...
Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 12:55 am
by [CL]9mm-Man
I think your jumping the gun, they havent yet comfirmed any "modding" functions. Although they probably will and I do hope they make it a big feature. We cant be sure and we shouldnt jump the gun yet.
Plus even if they didnt, us modders would find a way, Halo pc, they never released any modding tools officially and look how far we got. I think modders if need be will make programs to help it, just like Gren and mono did with halo 1
Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 5:00 am
by Snave
younghaloce wrote:The main reason I'm getting H2PC is becuase it's eaisier to mod, and because it has a map editor.
I'd probably mod it using some H2PC version of Sparkedit, and with Hex Editor. Using them to move stuff around, duplicate stuff, and change weapon projectiles (I know they are very simple mods, but I'll also dl many other mods).
I take it you declined to read the part about the SDK?..
Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 9:51 am
by superaison
um.... they will evolve the REAL Halo 2 CE (Halo 2 Cutom Edition) and it will be for the pc, not the halo 2 modded on xbox, and official, with sweet new map toolz!!!
Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 7:00 pm
by ApocalypseTyrant
Well they did actually release official modding tools for Halo PC (HEK for CE) but it was long into the life of Halo PC...after they saw how popular modding the game was becoming. Personally, i just like the fact that with Halo 2 PC, you'll be able to play 16 people in multiplayer, but have a full screen. I don't know about the rest of you, but split screen drives me nuts. Plus, I never could justify subscribing to Xbox Live.
Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2006 4:28 am
by computers_6
even if microsoft put some security features on halo2 PC to stop modding it im sure ppl will beable to crack them i mean look at IE they said it has top of theline security you go online with it *BOOM* you have a virus or spyware or somethign like that
enless they put the security they use to proect thier company computers from hackers ppl whould be able to find away to hack the security or override it.
Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2006 9:51 am
by ApocalypseTyrant
Anything can be hacked. It just takes time and patience. Let's compare hacking to someone breaking into your house. Sure, if you install a sturdy lock or two, it'll keep most people out. It just isn't worth the effort, but if someone really wants to get in, so they decide to bring a bazooka along, then they're going to get in. The same applies with a computer. Firewalls and encryption may do you you a world of good against most of the world, but if someone really wants to get in, they'll find a way.