Community Project: H2V to H2X Conversions

-DeToX- · Post by **-DeToX-** » Sat Jun 30, 2007 9:48 am

H2V uses the same culling as h2x, so it should be absolutely fine.

Snave · Post by **Snave** » Sat Jun 30, 2007 10:18 am

Here's a map that is very basic, has only one shader applied and has a limited amount of spawn data. Should be simplier than converting a more complex map.

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shade45 · Post by **shade45** » Sat Jun 30, 2007 10:38 am

Thanks Snave for the map I also think it would be a good idea to work with a smaller map.

I'm going to get the bsp into a h2 map then I'll post it here.

Prey · Post by **Prey** » Sat Jun 30, 2007 11:14 am

Anthony wrote:haha prey you explained exactly what I said just in a story

what he explained was culling which I said it IS done by directX

Ah well, it looked as if you were agreeing with him, when he was in-fact wrong ;x pfft story? Truth more like!

..and Snave, that has to the crappiest map I've ever seen, you fail as a modder =x

Snave · Post by **Snave** » Sat Jun 30, 2007 11:37 am

Prey wrote:..and Snave, that has to the crappiest map I've ever seen, you fail as a modder =x

I thought it was a rather good attempt for 30minutes ish work

Tain7ed · Post by **Tain7ed** » Sat Jun 30, 2007 11:41 am

....ok guys this is me probably being wrong again(thanks for the corrections Prey, Anthony) but when i was screwing around with the lockout map I had 1.6ue check the map magic which it said was wrong and attempted to fix it, i got errors about all of the weapon tags saying there were broken idents all over the place is the map having the wrong magic screwing it up or is that just an error inside of 1.6?

Prey · Post by **Prey** » Sat Jun 30, 2007 12:05 pm

Tain7ed wrote:....ok guys this is me probably being wrong again(thanks for the corrections Prey, Anthony) but when i was screwing around with the lockout map I had 1.6ue check the map magic which it said was wrong and attempted to fix it, i got errors about all of the weapon tags saying there were broken idents all over the place is the map having the wrong magic screwing it up or is that just an error inside of 1.6?

The magics are indeed very important, because if they are wrong, nothing will work. *gasp*

The primary magic is first calculated from a constant in the index (primaryMagicConstant - (Map.header.indexOffset + 32)). This magic is then used to find the start of the tag tree.. and then not used again, to my knowledge.

The secondary magic is very regularly used, and is calculated using the matgTag's raw meta offset found in the tag tree (matgRawMetaOffset - (Map.header.indexOffset + Map.header.indexSize)). This magic is used for finding meta offsets and translating reflexives in the meta.

The final magicians are those of the bsp's. Each sbsp in a map has a different magic (bspMagicConstant - bspMetaOffset). These negatives are used to find the bsp's corresponding lightmap's meta offset, as well as translate any reflexives found in the bsp/lightmap's section of the map.

turk645 · Post by **turk645** » Sat Jun 30, 2007 4:11 pm

ok this is a long shot seeing as i dont know what all you did but could it be some of the bitms? Cause i found out that vista bitmaps are bigger than xbox bitms and i know if you inject a bitm bad it will look fine in the editor but cause black screening once you try to load it.

Anthony · Post by **Anthony** » Sat Jun 30, 2007 4:15 pm

he didnt inject the bitmap he just used one that is already in the map

shade45 · Post by **shade45** » Sat Jun 30, 2007 9:27 pm

turk645 wrote:ok this is a long shot seeing as i dont know what all you did but could it be some of the bitms? Cause i found out that vista bitmaps are bigger than xbox bitms and i know if you inject a bitm bad it will look fine in the editor but cause black screening once you try to load it.

Yeah like Anthony said I just used a bitmap that was already in the map so that shouldnt be the problem.

snakejknight · Post by **snakejknight** » Sat Jun 30, 2007 9:28 pm

how are u injecting it? decompiling with h2core?

srry i havn't modded in a while, but i remember there being an option in h2core where the meta would be overited to be as the last map decompiled, would it be possible to decompile the h2v map first and then an h2 map... then the widgets and stuff might be overwritten and it might be playable

haha... long shot but i don't have h2v so its all i can do

Anthony · Post by **Anthony** » Sat Jun 30, 2007 10:02 pm

snakejknight wrote:how are u injecting it? decompiling with h2core?

srry i havn't modded in a while, but i remember there being an option in h2core where the meta would be overited to be as the last map decompiled, would it be possible to decompile the h2v map first and then an h2 map... then the widgets and stuff might be overwritten and it might be playable

haha... long shot but i don't have h2v so its all i can do

h2v maps are a bit different so core wouldn't be able to even open it

shade45 · Post by **shade45** » Sat Jun 30, 2007 11:02 pm

snakejknight wrote:how are u injecting it? decompiling with h2core?

srry i havn't modded in a while, but i remember there being an option in h2core where the meta would be overited to be as the last map decompiled, would it be possible to decompile the h2v map first and then an h2 map... then the widgets and stuff might be overwritten and it might be playable

haha... long shot but i don't have h2v so its all i can do

I made my own app to open the maps and extract the meta.

Heres a quick rundown of how I converted the bsp.

- Extracted bsp meta and raw from the h2v map.
- Added the 16 byte sbsp header that h2v bsps are missing
- Rewrote all reflexives in the meta adding 16 to them to make up for the header I added
- Fixed all tag/lone id references I could find
- Overwrote lockouts bsp/raw with the h2v bsp.

kornman00 · Post by **kornman00** » Sun Jul 01, 2007 2:30 am

That header isn't part of the actual bsp tag, its specific to the xbox since all the bsps can't exist in memory at once.

There are a few tags that have PC only fields in them, so thats whats probably messing it up

shade45 · Post by **shade45** » Sun Jul 01, 2007 4:46 pm

kornman00 wrote:That header isn't part of the actual bsp tag, its specific to the xbox since all the bsps can't exist in memory at once.

There are a few tags that have PC only fields in them, so thats whats probably messing it up

Ok that makes sense your most likely right.

Edit:

I think I found the problem I'm pretty sure its with the raw data. The H2v raw(type 1) only has 9 rsrc blocks while h2x raw has 11 rsrc blocks.

-project- · Post by **-project-** » Mon Jul 02, 2007 7:29 am

Sounds Good But I Aint Got Halo2 On Vista Wondering If Someone Would Gladly Upload Some VISTA Only Maps

up load on This Site Plz not
Filefront.com

Thanks ..

gman · Post by **gman** » Mon Jul 02, 2007 9:03 am

-project- wrote:Sounds Good But I Aint Got Halo2 On Vista Wondering If Someone Would Gladly Upload Some VISTA Only Maps up load on This Site Plz not
Filefront.com Thanks ..

i wouldn't be supprised if you get banned, no one can or will upload the maps it's one of the rules no uploading hole map files only ppf's, sppf's or serenity patches or you will be banned, so my suggestion is get h2v or just don't bother asking

Prey · Post by **Prey** » Mon Jul 02, 2007 9:09 am

gman wrote:i wouldn't be supprised if you get banned, no one can or will upload the maps it's one of the rules no uploading hole map files only ppf's, sppf's or serenity patches or you will be banned, so my suggestion is get h2v or just don't bother asking

You can obviously post h2v maps made with the h2v map maker :-/

-project- wrote:Sounds Good But I Aint Got Halo2 On Vista Wondering If Someone Would Gladly Upload Some VISTA Only Maps up load on This Site Plz not
Filefront.com Thanks ..

Right... well Snave did upload a basic map a page back.. if you think it'll work on your xbox just like that then your a fucking idiot; why do you think this topic is even here..?

gman · Post by **gman** » Mon Jul 02, 2007 12:36 pm

Prey wrote:You can obviously post h2v maps made with the h2v map maker :-/

well those are user created maps meaning it's not copy righted
if you posted the retail maps off the disc on here that would be copy right infringement since bungie made the maps the can not be distributed by any other means than buying the actual game

-DeToX- · Post by **-DeToX-** » Mon Jul 02, 2007 1:12 pm

gman wrote:
Prey wrote:You can obviously post h2v maps made with the h2v map maker :-/
well those are user created maps meaning it's not copy righted
if you posted the retail maps off the disc on here that would be copy right infringement since bungie made the maps the can not be distributed by any other means than buying the actual game

Thats what he JUST said.